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Hastula

2007-11-01T11:26:25Z

Tranhuudang_blocked_old: New page: Hastula of ''Livistona saribus''

[[Image:Hastula Livistona saribus.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Hastula of ''Livistona saribus'']]

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2007-11-01T11:26:02Z

Tranhuudang_blocked_old: Photo - Tran Huu Dang

Photo - Tran Huu Dang

Glossary

2007-11-01T11:21:51Z

Tranhuudang_blocked_old: /* '''H - M''' */

=='''A - G'''==
*'''[[Bifid]]'''
*'''[[Crownshaft]]'''
*'''[[Dioecious]]'''
*'''[[Endosperm]]'''
*'''[[Endocarp]]'''

=='''H - M'''==
*'''[[Hastula]]'''
*'''[[Heel]]'''
*'''[[Leaf base]]'''
*'''[[Leaflets]]'''
*'''[[Monocarpic]]'''
*'''[[Monoecious]]'''

=='''N - S'''==
*'''[[Palmate]]'''
*'''[[Petiole]]'''
*'''[[Pinnae]]'''
*'''[[Pinnate]]'''
*'''[[Rachis]]'''
*'''[[Radicle]]'''

=='''T - Z'''==
*'''[[Tomentum]]'''
*'''[[Tristichous]]'''

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2007-10-01T15:56:13Z

Tranhuudang_blocked_old: New page: The habitat was so beautiful, where đi you shoot it?

The habitat was so beautiful, where đi you shoot it?

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2007-10-01T15:43:16Z

Tranhuudang_blocked_old: Flower - Photo by Tran Huu Dang

Flower - Photo by Tran Huu Dang

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2007-10-01T15:42:49Z

Tranhuudang_blocked_old: In Vietnam - Photo by Tran Huu Dang

In Vietnam - Photo by Tran Huu Dang

File:Hyophorbe young fruit.JPG

2007-10-01T15:20:16Z

Tranhuudang_blocked_old:

Bismarckia nobilis

2007-09-26T03:43:22Z

Tranhuudang_blocked_old:

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|image=Ho'o42.jpg
|image_caption=Ho'omaluhia, Hawaii
|genus=''Bismarkia''
|species=''nobilis''
|continent=africa
|habit=solitary
|leaf_type=palmate
|height=40+ft/12+m
|trunk_diameter=1-2ft/.3-.6m
|sun_exposure=Full hot sun
|watering=moderate-wet
|soil_type=Well draining
|hardiness=
|common_names=
}}

[[Image:Bizzy Habitat.jpg|350px|left|thumb|Words won't work - Bizzy Habitat]]
[[Image:Biz nob sc.jpg|thumb|300px|Hawaii with Jeff Brusseau for scale]]
[[Image:Bizzy crn.jpg|thumb|300px|Kona, Hawaii]]
[[Image:Bizzy lf.jpg|thumb|300px|Kona, Hawaii]]
[[Image:BISMARCKIA SBG.jpg|thumb|50 ft. Green Form, Singapore]]
[[Image:Bsmackias zoo.jpg|thumb|250px|Paneawa Zoo - Hilo, Hawaii]]
[[Image:Bizzy tall grn.jpg|thumb|Tall green form - Kona, Hawaii]]
[[Image:BISMARCKIA SILVER NN 1.jpg|thumb|Super Silver, Nong Nooch]]
[[Image:Bactris mexicana Leu.jpg|thumb|Branching? Thailand]]
[[Image:Bismarckia female unripe seed Wood.jpg|thumb|Seed, California]]
[[Image:Bismarckia green Hotel on River Kwai.jpg|thumb|Green Form, Thailand]]
[[Image:Bismarckia Leu Gardens.jpg|thumb|Nice Silver, Leu Gardens]]
[[Image:Bismarckia Ralph end 04.jpg|thumb|So. California]]
[[Image:Bismarckia female Wood.jpg|thumb|Fallbrook, California]]
[[Image:Bismarckia ripe seed Wood.jpg|thumb|Seeds, SoCal]]
[[Image:Bismarckias all in a row Nong Nooch.jpg|thumb|Nong Nooch]]
[[Image:BISMARCKIAS green SBG.jpg|thumb|Green Form, Singapore]]
[[Image:Bismarckia flowers.jpg|thumb|Seeds, Green Form?]]
[[Image:Bismarkia nobilis.jpg|thumb|In Vietnam]]
{{Palm Page}}
==Habitat and Distribution==
==Description==
==Culture==
Blue/silver form in Mediterranean climate:

This is a great palm for such a climate, but it never looks quite as amazing/majestic as it does in a more tropical climate. It is highly tolerant of intense, inland heat, growing fastest where it is the hottest. However, it also grows well along the coast of such a climate- but significantly more slowly and with less intense coloration. It is best to grow this palm in a well draining soil, but palms grown in dense clay soils seems to do pretty well. Keeping the soil moist sure seems to keep this palm happier.

Full sun is the best location for this palm. Unfortunately full sun often means the most intense cold exposure in the winter. It is cold tolerant down to the high 20s/-3.3C as a seedling, often being defoliated at temps below 27F/-2.77C (but usually recovers if the bud is treated well). However, as this plant matures its cold tolerance seems to improve dramatically, with some palms surviving temps down near 22F/-5.55C with only moderate leaf damage. Over winter this is one of those palms that tends to go 'into a coma' often not showing the least bit of growth for 4-6 months at a time. However, once it warms up, it is not unusual to see some palms produce up to 1-2 leaves a month (the larger the faster it grows) which is very fast for a Mediterranean climate palm.

Green form in a Mediterranean climate:

Though this form is much faster growing than the blue form in tropical climates, the opposite tends to be true in a Mediterranean climate. In fact, in most such climates, this is known as a very marginal palm, often unable to tolerate much freezing weather at all, and sulking dramatically in prolonged cool seasons. Its culture is so different from the blue-silver forms, that it seems like a totally different species. It is very rare to see this color form growing in a Mediterranean climate, and even rarer to see one in such a climate and healthy looking. This palm always seems to battling some bud-related damage problems. It is not unusual for exceptional palms that seem to be growing well to just up and die with no apparent reason.

==Curiosities==

File:Bismarkia nobilis.jpg

2007-09-26T03:42:30Z

Tranhuudang_blocked_old: In Dam Sen Park, Vietnam. Photo by Tran Huu Dang

In Dam Sen Park, Vietnam. Photo by Tran Huu Dang

User talk:Dypsisdean

2007-09-26T03:28:07Z

Tranhuudang_blocked_old:

'''''This is where you can leave me any questions or feedback. Just edit this page or press the "+" tab at the top to open a new window with a new topic.'''''

== Caption missing? ==

Hey I added a photo on Christian's User Page but I couldn't get the caption to show. Am I doing something wrong? [[User:MattyB|MattyB]] 15:15, 9 May 2007 (PDT)
*Fixed it. Up to you to find out the "secret." [[User:Dypsisdean|Dypsisdean]] 15:18, 9 May 2007 (PDT)
== ''''Hey Christian'''' ==
Hey, do you guys want me to do a writeup on something like remote vs adjacent germination? I would like to contribute more.
*"'''Contribute???'''" Did I hear the word contribute? I like the sound of that word. :) It took me awhile to figure out who said it though. :) Christian, if you type 4 'tildes' (that wavy line that goes above an 'N' in Spanish), after your post, it will 'sign' your name and a date stamp. Yes, an article on remote/adjacent germination would be great. I'm thinking it could be a part of a larger detailed on going article on germination in general with pics of germination "tips and tricks." MattyB is a king germinator these days. Perhaps we could all collaborate on it. What do you think Matty?
*Christian, try editing your user page and maybe one of the palm pages you know something about. Maybe a little spiel on that dwarf D. lutescens that I know nothing about. It would give you a feel before you start on the germination thing. You will see how the pics and stuff are handled. [[User:Dypsisdean|Dypsisdean]] 22:52, 9 May 2007 (PDT)
*OK, you know I'm up for it. Although my experience is very limited. I'm trying a lot of germination but I'm very fresh (unlike my seed it seems).[[User:MattyB|MattyB]] 08:34, 10 May 2007 (PDT)
*OK, I just figured out that I had forgot to put "thumb" in the code and that's why Christian's caption wasn't showing. Is that right? Is it called code? What's the term for the stuff we do in the edit tab?[[User:MattyB|MattyB]] 08:40, 10 May 2007 (PDT)
*It's called 'wiki markup' or 'markup' for short. [[User:Dypsisdean|Dypsisdean]] 11:48, 10 May 2007 (PDT)

== Table of Contents ==

Hey, I just noticed that on my user talk page theres now a table of contents. When I opened the edit tab I couldn't see anything obvious that had been done to do that.[[User:MattyB|MattyB]] 08:36, 10 May 2007 (PDT)
*That's automatic. It seems after about four 'topics' being created, the software automatically makes that table of contents. Notice it has a hide feature on it if you don't like it.
*Something else I was playing around with yesterday. 'Special Pages/Preferences' I put in my email and now I get notified with a nicely laid out email when someone adds or responds in my talk page. Haven't figured it all out. It's probably time for a phone call to discuss a lot of the stuff. I'm glad you guys had a good tour and the place looks OK. [[User:Dypsisdean|Dypsisdean]] 11:47, 10 May 2007 (PDT)

I'll call you next week sometime. We're moving this weekend and hopefull we'll close escrow tomorrow so we can do so. (3 days late) ahhhhhh stresssssfulllllllll[[User:MattyB|MattyB]] 15:15, 10 May 2007 (PDT)

== Buretiokentia koghiensis flower ==

Did you see your flowering koghiensis?[[User:MattyB|MattyB]] 15:13, 10 May 2007 (PDT)
*Cool, hopefully it will set seed this time. Third time's the charm??? [[User:Dypsisdean|Dypsisdean]] 00:40, 11 May 2007 (PDT)

== SZS ==

I plugged in a couple of species. Is this the format you were thinking of, a bunch of species listed w/ dashes in between?[[User:MattyB|MattyB]] 14:56, 11 May 2007 (PDT)
*Not exactly --- I thought it would go more like #1A is now. Click on #1A to get to that zone page. I've put in a few for a sample. I put the COLD RATING DATA BASE temps in for reference. The page where you put in your entries was more for a rough high and low boundary for each zone. You would then click on the link to get to that specific zone. Otherwise all the palms would be on that one page. According to the data base C. radicalis is hardy to 20.3 which makes it hardier than than a Queen. What did you think it's hardy to. And they have Parajubaea spp varying between 22.4-28.4. But you you/ve got the general idea. I'm still working on the layout. I'm thinking it will be hard to get rid of temps entirely. At least until we get alot of things in order. That's why I put in the COLD RATING DATA in parenthesis. If you've got the temps from the SoCal guide, maybe you could put those temps in brackets after the parenthesis. That way we could see the disparities between the two. It would help decide where to eventually place things.Then we can use the Forum data too. And hopefully people will eventually use the discussion pages for the subcategories to add their experiences. Of course there is no right or wrong here, and there will be much disagreement, but the way all the different data is available now , it is really not very useful. Once we get it a little more set up with a few of the common palms in there, I'll let Geoff and Steve in SoCal know about it. Maybe they will like it and get involved. Then Geoff might think about uploading some pics as well.
*Have you checked out the test forum site yet? I'm really curious to know what you think, and if it is working and asking for your new password, etc.
*What do you think about the new addition to the main page? I could make one that cycled through 2 or three times and then stopped.

== organization ==

So, a shuffled about the site a bit... not sure how things are organized yet. Are you eventually going to have an alphabetical listing of palms where one can upload palm photos to?... or is there one already. I see a list of downloaded palms, but not obvious rhyme or reason to it.
*Hey Geoff, at least you made it here. I don't know how you missed the main Encyclopedia though. Go to the main page and click right after the green revolving arrow that says 'click here.' Also, remember that communications need to be signed or nobody can guess who they are from. I sent you an emai explaining more. [[User:Dypsisdean|Dypsisdean]] 16:49, 18 May 2007 (PDT)

== Undo? ==

So...let's say you upload the wrong file and want to remove it. I've clicked a lot of pages, but haven't found much in the way of instrux. Clue? And where do you place the codes for thumbs or pixels? [[User:Kim|Kim]] 17:56, 21 May 2007 (PDT)
*Check out the 'special pages' section. In there you will see a selection for 'Gallery of new files,' 'File list,' and many other useful items including personal preferrences. However, you can always click on 'recent changes" on the left of every page for everything new that's been done, including uploads. If you make a mistake, and upload the wrong file, any file given the same name when uploading will overwrite the existing one. For any page there will be an edit tab which takes you to where you can edit text as well as the image tags, such as pixels, and thumb location and size. If you click edit on any page with photos, you will be able to see where you place the code for tweaking the options for photos. They come after the [[Image:'filename'| command. If you don't see it let me know, I'll try and be more specific.
*Also, in order to see responses to your queries when they are somewhere else than your user page, you will need to check "watch this page" Otherwise, it is to easy to forget where you have written things. If you do that you can click on 'my watchlist' at the top to see recent additions to pages you are watching. [[User:Dypsisdean|Dypsisdean]] 18:07, 21 May 2007 (PDT)

Hey Dean and Matt-

I have been getting your PMs and emails, I am sorry I have been busy. I think I have some more pictures and whatnot to add. I will have to find the link again where you mentioned how to add articles. Wow I am disorganized!
*Christian, No problem. I just didn't want you to think I didn't get back to you. This wiki communication can be a little weird at first. For example, If I didn't know that I just emailed you, and that was probably you respaonding in the message above, there is no indication who it is from. It is necessary to sign your name if you wish people to know who wrote it. Any help will certainly be appreciated, bu only if you have the time and desire. Or just enjoy all the photos we are adding. [[User:Dypsisdean|Dypsisdean]] 12:10, 22 May 2007 (PDT)

I saw the note about editing to make a thumbnail, thanx Dean. (I'm going to have to edit that caption though.: D) I understand the syntax except for one thing: (I just love the way computers can be so humbling) where is the vertical slash on the keyboard? Or is it a capital 'I' in a sans-serif font??? Hmm, looking at the preview for this post, I think I just answered my own question.
As far as my "Undo?" question, I uploaded a photo directly from my computer, just experimenting, and now I want to *delete* it; not *edit*, not *replace*. I've tried the edit feature, the special pages; not getting anywhere. [[User:Kim|Kim]] 12:39, 22 May 2007 (PDT)
*I had never used that "line" character before either. My son had to inform me that character is a major player in unix coding, how could I not know that? :)
*Go to the Gallery of new files. Unfortunately it is very large right now. But your photo will be there. Also, I think there is a place to screen for images that have no links to them. It would also be there. I will look for that option, because that is one I will need to know in order to delete useless photos. I'll get back to you with a link, hopefully.

Finding the file is not the problem. When I click on "My contributions" it comes up with my numerous contributions, yes, all 3 of them. But then I can't figure out how to delete it. I'll keep trying, but so far I am too thick to figure it out. [[User:Kim|Kim]] 13:37, 22 May 2007 (PDT)
*Don't sell yourself short so quickly. You may not have permission to delete it. Since I have Sysop privledges, i see things that others can't see. It may be that since every edit is saved with a history, all users can delete pages because they can always be brought back. However, I think images are deleted for good, so obviously, if that is the case, it would not be a good idea to let everyone delete images. In fact I bet that's it. I'll create a normal user account for me to check for that and other things. It would be a good idea for me to check on things like that. In the meantime, I'll delete your painting for you. BTW --- I didn't know you could count painting along with your other talents. :) [[User:Dypsisdean|Dypsisdean]] 13:46, 22 May 2007 (PDT)

*Aha! No wonder it was so difficult - ''no permission''. In the meantime I took a ramble through the main wiki help area and learned the secret of asterisks and '''''quotation marks'''''. Just what I need, more distraction from work. This thing is getting very amazing very fast. Nice work Dean! And, uuhhhh, I wouldn't exactly claim painting as a ''talent''. [[User:Kim|Kim]] 14:15, 22 May 2007 (PDT)

*Am I correct that general users cannot edit the listings in the main Encyclopedia? (Check sp. on ''Coccothrinax argentata'') Is it possible to add a species? i.e. ''argentea, fragrans''? [[User:Kim|Kim]] 09:51, 29 May 2007 (PDT)
* Hey Kim, I noticed you were deleting things yesterday instead of adding. :) Anyway, yes --- I protected that main listing page because it was becoming so crucial to keep it intact at all times. So only the main page and that page are protected. I am not adding a species to the data base until I get a pic. Then when the pic is added, I give it a Palm page, and add the listing. Thanks, I corrected the C. argentata spelling. I'm glad someone noticed. Geoff has been unloading so many pics that I had to stop. I already maxed out my server's limit, and am now in the process of setting up another server with much more capacity. I have plenty of room for content, but another 200 pics and I would be out of room.

*Dean, check sp. on ''Acoelorraphe'' and ''Acanthophoenix''. I just noticed these today. I haven't gone through the whole list or anything. (If this is annoying, just say so.) [[User:Kim|Kim]] 13:36, 1 June 2007 (PDT)
*"Annoying????" To the contrary, it's very much appreciated. After entering hundreds of names here and there, eyes get blurry and fingers get clumsy. Besides, spelling is not my strong point, and there will never be a spell check for latin binomials. Are you sure you don't want a to be a Sysop? :) It's really only that one page that you couldn't correct yourself anyway. Feel free to correct grammar or spelling anywhere.[[User:Dypsisdean|Dypsisdean]] 14:03, 1 June 2007 (PDT)
*See what I mean? :-) [[User:Dypsisdean|Dypsisdean]] 15:55, 1 June 2007 (PDT)
*Sorry, couldn't resist. Had to see if you're paying attention. : D How is the server addition coming? [[User:Kim|Kim]] 17:25, 1 June 2007 (PDT)
*I wish I knew. It's all ready to go. Just waiting for the tech guy to do the software upgrade to the latest wiki software. It's a little tricky, but I just think he hasn't had time and/or he's just been lazy. [[User:Dypsisdean|Dypsisdean]] 17:30, 1 June 2007 (PDT)
*More: Dict<u>y</u>osperma, roebe<strike>l</strike>lenii (one ''l''), Johannesteijsmanni<u>a</u>. Will there be room for that last 'a'? Oh, and Parajubaea ''torallyi''. [[User:Kim|Kim]] 20:29, 3 June 2007 (PDT)
*Mucho mahalo Kim. I thought you said you couldn't help, because you didn't know anything. A proof reader is a giant help. Boy, I really massacred torallyi, didn't I? [[User:Dypsisdean|Dypsisdean]] 01:27, 4 June 2007 (PDT)
*If proofreading is the only way I can support the project, I'm happy to do it. I might not be able to identify the palm, but I can usually spell it -- and I look it up to be sure, because I make mistakes too. It's easy to come through and sweep up after you've already done the heavy lifting. These are just jumping out at me when I'm surfing the info, I haven't gone through the list systematically, only have a few minutes at a time to look around. [[User:Kim|Kim]] 07:48, 4 June 2007 (PDT)
*Proofreading is as important a contribution as anything else. In someways, it is the most important. Every kind of search has to start with a correct spelling. Any mistakes you see on other pages you can correct yourself. So feel free to do so when you notice something. If you can make a sentence flow better, or the grammar is shakey, do your thing. Thanks [[User:Dypsisdean|Dypsisdean]] 13:59, 4 June 2007 (PDT)
*Very minor edit that I can't access: When you go to the ''Coccothrinax argentata'' page with the photos, ''argentata'' is missing a 't'. : ) I enjoy the bird sounds so much, I open that screen then move back to my usual business screens to work. It's very soothing, I wish it lasted longer. I have put a few links to Palmpedia on a popular garden web site under the palm and cycad section, specifically to your "Top Ten..." article and this morning to the main page to get some traffic coming in. Last item: I saw your reply about volunteering to write about bugs, fungus, etc. No promises, but I might try to work something up to at least get it started. Again, my direct experience is limited. [[User:Kim|Kim]] 08:33, 20 June 2007 (PDT)
*Thanks Kim, I fixed the typo. Also thanks for promoting the site. As a reward, I put the sound track on loop so it is continuous. I don't know yet how most people like it, but we'll see. I have a few tracks that I will try. So when you hear a new one, make a note. Let me know what you like. Also, we are on a new server now, and at times the site seems to hesitate a little. Let me know if you experience this as well. The tech guys keep blaming me and Hawaii internet service. Also, I think we can expect an interview from Wal, The Freck, and Clayton soon. I can't wait. And one more thing. You may miss it because I don't have a main link yet, but check under Garden Pictorials. I have started uploading some pics from Gary's Madagascar trip. The ones up already are not nearly the best. He took some fantastic National Geographic type shots, coming soon. [[User:Dypsisdean|Dypsisdean]] 12:21, 20 June 2007 (PDT)
*Hi -- itty bitty fixes needed: Bactris ''gasipaes'' and Bactris ''grayumii''. It looks like Luis already picked up on this. When you click on the listed name, it takes you to a corrected name and says (redirected from -Bactris misspelled-). I wouldn't have noticed otherwise, not familiar with these. I checked another site or two to confirm spelling, I hope ''they'' are right. --- Do you know the Vietnamese guy putting up pix? Looks good, nice to have international participation. All the more reason to include metric. Oh, and I've been adding temp. conversions F to C, although there are not many. I'm still waiting for Wal's interview, no sign of him.[[User:Kim|Kim]] 15:44, 10 July 2007 (PDT)
*Oops, couple more: Borassus ''flabellifer'' -- looks like this one got the "redirect" treatment also. Just below that is Borassus ''madagascar-i-ensis'' and for some reason Borassus is fully spelled out, doesn't look like your work.
*You go girl. :-) I'll get to work on those corrections. There are several palms like the B. madagascarensis. There are two B. mads. Beccariophoenix and Borassus. Same with names like C. elegans. There are four. So some have to be spelled out or the page will have the same name. I think it was Luis that did the Borassus. I'll check. And no, I don't know who the Vietnam guy is. I will write him a welcome. And ditto, Wal's interview should be interesting. I hope he comes through.[[User:Dypsisdean|Dypsisdean]] 16:27, 10 July 2007 (PDT)
*Mucho Mahalo Miss Metric. [[User:Dypsisdean|Dypsisdean]] 16:46, 10 July 2007 (PDT)
*Uuuuhhhh. Maybe you should give me temporary sysops status, (I can't believe I just wrote that) just to clean up some of the typos in the framework. 'Curiosities' is consistently misspelled throughout the framework. Is there a way to correct once and spell check the entire site? Or did you input all that manually? I don't know why I never noticed before... As I was putting in italics, something didn't feel right, so I did some reading. Sure enough, italics are used with the binomials, but not any descriptive words beyond that, and never when the genus is expressed as a plural. So I've been re-doing my edits...and learning about palms I never knew existed before.[[User:Kim|Kim]] 18:12, 16 July 2007 (PDT)
*Congratulations. I think you are a sysop now. It really doesn't give you all that many more privileges.
*I can't believe I did that....."curiosities." That is one I really did know how to spell. And it's not a template, so I can't change it just once. Darn!!! I've been cutting and pasting that mispelling this whole time. I wasn't sure about the proper protocol either as to the binomials and italics. I'm glad you figured it out.
*I'm not sure if that sysop status will give you enough to do what you need to. Please let me know, because there is one more step above that......Bureaucrat. That sounds really scary, doesn't it? I can change it in an instant. I don't think there is anything you can mess up, except to delete the Main Page. That's the only super bad thing. Everything else can just be rolled back.
*BTW --- I'm changing your favorite sound track. Tell me if you hate it. If you want I could send you some of those bird tracks and rain with light thunder for your PC for a little meditation between sell programs. :-) [[User:Dypsisdean|Dypsisdean]] 19:21, 16 July 2007 (PDT)
*Oh! It sounds like we've walked from the moonlit garden into a nightclub. Shhh-ch-ch-shhh, ch-ch-shhhh, ch-ch-shhhh! It's your site, do your thing. (Send me the birds, yes please.)
* If you were perfect, you could do the whole site by yourself, and that would be boring. Your few little mistakes serve to make you endearingly human. But if you made a zillion mistakes, well, you could do the whole site alone, and no one would ever visit...
*My schedule is very full for the next 2 days, I'll try to figure out my new superpowers soon though. Thx.[[User:Kim|Kim]] 21:41, 16 July 2007 (PDT)
*When I make corrections on the index names, it breaks the link to the palm pages. For example, Becarriophoenix madagascar-i-ensis and Brahea saruk-h-anii. (I've started checking spellings against RBC Kew's World checklist of monocotyledons. I swear every time I get through the B's and C's, I think of something else...) Anyway, even inserting a space or period breaks the link, and can't decipher how to correct that and re-establish the link. Tips?[[User:Kim|Kim]] 21:02, 18 July 2007 (PDT)Yup, I'm going to have to learn how to deal with this, just found 2 more, B. vieillardii and Brahea paraguayensis. G'night.[[User:Kim|Kim]] 21:09, 18 July 2007 (PDT)
*Rather than try and explain everything, I went ahead and put a temporary fix on the Beccariophoenix. You are sharp enough to pick up on what I did there. You have stumbled upon the realization that anything new within a set of double brackets creates a new link to a new page. So just changing what displays is the easiest way. You can see how I did that. There is a way to make it all the way right, but I would have to explain it to you some other way, rather than here. And it's not worth a screencast. :-) But it has to do with the "move" tab. To do so, it is best to open up two browser windows, so you don't have to remember what you are doing, and get "lost." Open one window to the Palm Page whose spelling you will be correcting and break the link to, and the other to where you will correct the spelling. When the spelling is complete (and the link is broken), you can go to the Palm Page in the other window and "move" it to the new spelling. The tricky part is, that if you "lose" that page, you may not be able to find it again if you don't remember exactly how it was spelled. That is why keeping a separate browser window open, with it showing, will help you not to lose it. There, I guess I tried to explain it anyway. :-) For now (unless you are curious) just change the spelling as you will see in Beccariophoenix. That's easy. I'm sure you will undertand that trick. If not, let me know. I'll eventually see that it is like that and clean it up. It's really just a "house cleaning" chore. That is a trick we can use for those palms with the same names like C. elegans, as we have discussed before. It is useful for any time you wish the text to say something different than the actual link. [[User:Dypsisdean|Dypsisdean]] 23:30, 18 July 2007 (PDT)
*So it turns out ''Alsmithia longipes'' is now ''Heterospathe longipes'', since 2005, fairly recent. And ''Caryota gigas'' is a synonym for ''Caryota obtusa''. I had no idea what I was getting into here. These are not revisions I should make.[[User:Kim|Kim]] 21:00, 20 July 2007 (PDT)
*Editing concurrently again -- computer does not like, refuses my pithy edits. There is only one 'L' in 'survivability'. : )

== Cycads ==

Dean-

Do you want me to add any cycad photos? I have a ton of goodies, just figured they may go in hand with the palms.

-CF
*Christian, for now let's hold off. There is so much else going on. In the future though, if someone wanted to dedicate some time to a Cycad section, I wouldn't object. I don't have the knowledge to organize and put together one though. [[User:Dypsisdean|Dypsisdean]] 14:49, 15 June 2007 (PDT)

== Sound! ==

Hey, I see your sound!....on my user page. Cool. I looked at the edit page and I have no clue what's going on there. That's some Voodoo!
[[User:MattyB|MattyB]] 15:55, 19 June 2007 (PDT)

== Adding species? ==

Dean, What about Borassus aethiopum and madagascariensis??? How do I add those? I have a photo of each! Also notice there is no V. gerardii... It seems to be a mysterious palm that there isn't much info or photos avaiable... Can you add those palms?

Hmmmm... That green Palmpedia book design looks stikingly similar to my icon design.... Hmmmm.... I think this page may have to be forwarded to my Royalties Collection Agency!!! ;)
*Welcome William, I answered you yesterday, or so I thought. I must have clicked on a wrong button and not saved it. Anyway, I wanted to let you know that if you go ahead and upload the the photos, I will see them and create a listing and a page for them, and move them into the new page. That way no species that is listed will ever be without a photo. Then hopefully people will eventually go back and fill in descriptions, etc. for each species. I'm curious, which icon of yours are you speaking of as being similar to this one? A user in Costa Rica sent that to me a few days ago as a contribution. I believe it was original art. [[User:Dypsisdean|Dypsisdean]] 11:40, 22 June 2007 (PDT)

*I guess I was referring to my favicon for the IPS website "Palmtalk", but after looking back at that thread is seems there are only similarities and it would take a really really expensive lawyer to get me royalties... Oh well for the easy money... back to waiting for the trees to grow. :) Good luck with the site! Certainly a great idea, a single place for a plethera of hands-on data... I like it, I like it ALOT! Maybe an advertisement at palms.org, ortanique.com, and rarepalmseeds.com would be in order?
*Oh yeah, I remember now. Must be the clip art. :-) BTW --- I haven't forgot about that. I am waiting for the OK to switch to another server and software, after which I will try to get the favicon in there. Thanks for the pics. Any other Hi-Res shots you have that I could use, feel free to upload them, or contribute in any other way as well. [[User:Dypsisdean|Dypsisdean]] 14:51, 22 June 2007 (PDT)

== main page song ==

Ohhhh man I love that song you have on the main page. It's what the theme from Pee Wee's playhouse starts off with. Memories.

[[User:MattyB|MattyB]] 14:29, 19 July 2007 (PDT)
*I like the new "nature sounds" loop, don't have to dive for the "stop" button now... ; ) [[User:Kim|Kim]] 13:36, 20 July 2007 (PDT)
*Dissension in the Sysop ranks :-).

== Palm Box editing question ==

*Doing a minor edit to ''Trachycarpus latisectus'', when I add the trunk diameter in centimeters, it no longer shows up in the palm box at all. Comparing the previous version with the new, I don't see why. Could you take a quick look and let me know where the glitch is? Thanks. [[User:Kim|Kim]] 09:37, 27 July 2007 (PDT)
*I don't think it was ever there. I noticed the underscore "_" wasn't in between the words (Trunk and diameter), and I doubt you erased it. In the Palmbox, if the underscore isn't there, in between words, it won't show. BTW --- I noticed if Asia is inserted "Oceania" actually shows (continents need to be lower case to work). I need to contact Luis. The Palmbox is sort of a "different animal." Don't quite understand it all, yet. Thanks for getting on those so quickly. I didn't want to take the time last night to do those details. It was late, and I wanted to follow Geoff's efforts getting the commentarty in on those pages.
*I don't know how you guys do Mt. Whitney. I drove up Moana Loa 13,600ft, and a flight of stairs up there killed me. I hope it's just a symptom of getting up there so quickly and no chance to adjust, rather that a commentary on my fitness. :) [[User:Dypsisdean|Dypsisdean]] 12:55, 27 July 2007 (PDT)
*I see. Yes, I am just following new additions and tweaking any missing details to amuse myself when I have a moment free. But also being careful not to do it while Geoff is working!
*The trick for altitude is to arrive a few days ahead to get acclimated. We'll go camp at 9,000 ft. for 2 nights and do short day hikes at 10-11,000 ft. before actually hiking Whitney. It makes a huge difference. We drove from San Diego to San Gorgonio, started hiking at 8,000 ft and when we got up around 11,000 ft we had to walk 100 steps and rest, walk 100 steps and rest. It was brutal because we hadn't acclimated. But some people are genetically unable to acclimate, hope that's not you. Have you ever gone on a snowboard trip, and you feel completely whipped the first day, but the third day you're ripping? It's because by then you have so many more red blood cells in your bloodstream. [[User:Kim|Kim]] 13:24, 27 July 2007 (PDT)
*I figured that was it. One minute at sea level, and a little over an hour later at 13,600ft, has to be a shock to the system. [[User:Dypsisdean|Dypsisdean]] 13:37, 27 July 2007 (PDT)
* Haven't been in the snow since I was 18 and used to ski. Now, warm water surfing over cold snowboarding is preferable, I don't think I'm going to be surfing at altitude any time soon. :-) [[User:Dypsisdean|Dypsisdean]] 13:42, 27 July 2007 (PDT)
*Dean, the Asia image bug was fixed, it works well now. --[[User:Ldgarcia27|Ldgarcia27]] 09:33, 28 July 2007 (PDT)
==Duplicate page==
*Cryosophila warscewiczii exists also as misspelled C. warscewsic'''s'''ii. The latter is showing up in the orphaned pages; if I try to move it, that would delete the other page which has a palmbox, but no photo. The new page has photos, no palmbox. I'm uncertain how best to resolve and merge the two pages. Suggestions? [[User:Kim|Kim]] 20:48, 14 September 2007 (PDT)
P.S. I figured out the kundapen/condapanna question, found the identical photo elsewhere. [[User:Kim|Kim]] 20:48, 14 September 2007 (PDT)
*Thought so, thanks for taking the time to track that down. [[User:Dypsisdean|Dypsisdean]] 12:09, 15 September 2007 (PDT)

== You beat me to it! ==

Hey that was actually me, Angela. I'm working on his user page! He's "supervising." I was resizing the photo and then when I went back to his page you already changed it! You are very efficient... are you German? Paul wants to know. Thanks for the help!

== Whoa! ==

Hi Dean. This is a strange new world. Thanks for the welcome. I finally figured out how to leave someone a post - this thing I'm writing. Although I'm not an expert, I tried adding in some basic info for the Pritchardia Thurstonii and it worked! Wow! I guess it's safe to say though this is not a forum, right? Real cool web site! Thanks for all your hard work.

I just looked at this and it didn't include my name, or date like on other messages. Anything I'm not doing? Thanks,

Just figured it out - Scott[[User:Scott|Scott]] 18:51, 20 September 2007 (PDT)

== very funny.... ==

I ''will'' have you know that I went to work at 10am sharp!
As you know I have been putting links to PP on WP (I will here on out refer to Palmpedia as "PP" and Wikipedia as "WP"... because I'm lazy)Someone showed interest in my gamelan recordings... I put a link to my PP page on their gamelan page. He/she would like me to upload my music directly to WP. First I have to license it or something to ensure it is not copyrighted. The person who contacted me is addicted to editing and checking links (just like me!) I messaged him/her back and tried to recruit him/her. I'll let you know when I hear back...--[[User:Enjula|Anjali]] 19:53, 20 September 2007 (PDT)

== RE: Question ==

Hi Dean, I am the same Scott from the Palm Talk Forum. But should I have responded in my own user talk page? And if so, do you do it by 'editing' the original message? That part I haven't figured out yet. I put the most basic info on my user page, but I don't have a palmy photo of myself to put there. I'll come up with something. Oh yeah I gotta watch that quicktime movie about uploading a picture. Gotta lot to do! Thanks! [[User:Scott|Scott]] 20:57, 20 September 2007 (PDT)

Dear Mr. Dean
How are you?
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