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This is where you can leave me any questions or feedback. Just edit this page or press the "+" tab at the top to open a new window with a new topic.

Caption missing?

Hey I added a photo on Christian's User Page but I couldn't get the caption to show. Am I doing something wrong? MattyB 15:15, 9 May 2007 (PDT)

  • Fixed it. Up to you to find out the "secret." Dypsisdean 15:18, 9 May 2007 (PDT)

'Hey Christian'

Hey, do you guys want me to do a writeup on something like remote vs adjacent germination? I would like to contribute more.

  • "Contribute???" Did I hear the word contribute? I like the sound of that word. :) It took me awhile to figure out who said it though. :) Christian, if you type 4 'tildes' (that wavy line that goes above an 'N' in Spanish), after your post, it will 'sign' your name and a date stamp. Yes, an article on remote/adjacent germination would be great. I'm thinking it could be a part of a larger detailed on going article on germination in general with pics of germination "tips and tricks." MattyB is a king germinator these days. Perhaps we could all collaborate on it. What do you think Matty?
  • Christian, try editing your user page and maybe one of the palm pages you know something about. Maybe a little spiel on that dwarf D. lutescens that I know nothing about. It would give you a feel before you start on the germination thing. You will see how the pics and stuff are handled. Dypsisdean 22:52, 9 May 2007 (PDT)
  • OK, you know I'm up for it. Although my experience is very limited. I'm trying a lot of germination but I'm very fresh (unlike my seed it seems).MattyB 08:34, 10 May 2007 (PDT)
  • OK, I just figured out that I had forgot to put "thumb" in the code and that's why Christian's caption wasn't showing. Is that right? Is it called code? What's the term for the stuff we do in the edit tab?MattyB 08:40, 10 May 2007 (PDT)
  • It's called 'wiki markup' or 'markup' for short. Dypsisdean 11:48, 10 May 2007 (PDT)

Table of Contents

Hey, I just noticed that on my user talk page theres now a table of contents. When I opened the edit tab I couldn't see anything obvious that had been done to do that.MattyB 08:36, 10 May 2007 (PDT)

  • That's automatic. It seems after about four 'topics' being created, the software automatically makes that table of contents. Notice it has a hide feature on it if you don't like it.
  • Something else I was playing around with yesterday. 'Special Pages/Preferences' I put in my email and now I get notified with a nicely laid out email when someone adds or responds in my talk page. Haven't figured it all out. It's probably time for a phone call to discuss a lot of the stuff. I'm glad you guys had a good tour and the place looks OK. Dypsisdean 11:47, 10 May 2007 (PDT)

I'll call you next week sometime. We're moving this weekend and hopefull we'll close escrow tomorrow so we can do so. (3 days late) ahhhhhh stresssssfulllllllllMattyB 15:15, 10 May 2007 (PDT)

Buretiokentia koghiensis flower

Did you see your flowering koghiensis?MattyB 15:13, 10 May 2007 (PDT)

  • Cool, hopefully it will set seed this time. Third time's the charm??? Dypsisdean 00:40, 11 May 2007 (PDT)


I plugged in a couple of species. Is this the format you were thinking of, a bunch of species listed w/ dashes in between?MattyB 14:56, 11 May 2007 (PDT)

  • Not exactly --- I thought it would go more like #1A is now. Click on #1A to get to that zone page. I've put in a few for a sample. I put the COLD RATING DATA BASE temps in for reference. The page where you put in your entries was more for a rough high and low boundary for each zone. You would then click on the link to get to that specific zone. Otherwise all the palms would be on that one page. According to the data base C. radicalis is hardy to 20.3 which makes it hardier than than a Queen. What did you think it's hardy to. And they have Parajubaea spp varying between 22.4-28.4. But you you/ve got the general idea. I'm still working on the layout. I'm thinking it will be hard to get rid of temps entirely. At least until we get alot of things in order. That's why I put in the COLD RATING DATA in parenthesis. If you've got the temps from the SoCal guide, maybe you could put those temps in brackets after the parenthesis. That way we could see the disparities between the two. It would help decide where to eventually place things.Then we can use the Forum data too. And hopefully people will eventually use the discussion pages for the subcategories to add their experiences. Of course there is no right or wrong here, and there will be much disagreement, but the way all the different data is available now , it is really not very useful. Once we get it a little more set up with a few of the common palms in there, I'll let Geoff and Steve in SoCal know about it. Maybe they will like it and get involved. Then Geoff might think about uploading some pics as well.
  • Have you checked out the test forum site yet? I'm really curious to know what you think, and if it is working and asking for your new password, etc.
  • What do you think about the new addition to the main page? I could make one that cycled through 2 or three times and then stopped.


So, a shuffled about the site a bit... not sure how things are organized yet. Are you eventually going to have an alphabetical listing of palms where one can upload palm photos to?... or is there one already. I see a list of downloaded palms, but not obvious rhyme or reason to it.

  • Hey Geoff, at least you made it here. I don't know how you missed the main Encyclopedia though. Go to the main page and click right after the green revolving arrow that says 'click here.' Also, remember that communications need to be signed or nobody can guess who they are from. I sent you an emai explaining more. Dypsisdean 16:49, 18 May 2007 (PDT)


So...let's say you upload the wrong file and want to remove it. I've clicked a lot of pages, but haven't found much in the way of instrux. Clue? And where do you place the codes for thumbs or pixels? Kim 17:56, 21 May 2007 (PDT)

  • Check out the 'special pages' section. In there you will see a selection for 'Gallery of new files,' 'File list,' and many other useful items including personal preferrences. However, you can always click on 'recent changes" on the left of every page for everything new that's been done, including uploads. If you make a mistake, and upload the wrong file, any file given the same name when uploading will overwrite the existing one. For any page there will be an edit tab which takes you to where you can edit text as well as the image tags, such as pixels, and thumb location and size. If you click edit on any page with photos, you will be able to see where you place the code for tweaking the options for photos. They come after the [[Image:'filename'| command. If you don't see it let me know, I'll try and be more specific.
  • Also, in order to see responses to your queries when they are somewhere else than your user page, you will need to check "watch this page" Otherwise, it is to easy to forget where you have written things. If you do that you can click on 'my watchlist' at the top to see recent additions to pages you are watching. Dypsisdean 18:07, 21 May 2007 (PDT)

Hey Dean and Matt-

I have been getting your PMs and emails, I am sorry I have been busy. I think I have some more pictures and whatnot to add. I will have to find the link again where you mentioned how to add articles. Wow I am disorganized!

  • Christian, No problem. I just didn't want you to think I didn't get back to you. This wiki communication can be a little weird at first. For example, If I didn't know that I just emailed you, and that was probably you respaonding in the message above, there is no indication who it is from. It is necessary to sign your name if you wish people to know who wrote it. Any help will certainly be appreciated, bu only if you have the time and desire. Or just enjoy all the photos we are adding. Dypsisdean 12:10, 22 May 2007 (PDT)

I saw the note about editing to make a thumbnail, thanx Dean. (I'm going to have to edit that caption though.: D) I understand the syntax except for one thing: (I just love the way computers can be so humbling) where is the vertical slash on the keyboard? Or is it a capital 'I' in a sans-serif font??? Hmm, looking at the preview for this post, I think I just answered my own question. As far as my "Undo?" question, I uploaded a photo directly from my computer, just experimenting, and now I want to *delete* it; not *edit*, not *replace*. I've tried the edit feature, the special pages; not getting anywhere. Kim 12:39, 22 May 2007 (PDT)

  • I had never used that "line" character before either. My son had to inform me that character is a major player in unix coding, how could I not know that? :)
  • Go to the Gallery of new files. Unfortunately it is very large right now. But your photo will be there. Also, I think there is a place to screen for images that have no links to them. It would also be there. I will look for that option, because that is one I will need to know in order to delete useless photos. I'll get back to you with a link, hopefully.

Finding the file is not the problem. When I click on "My contributions" it comes up with my numerous contributions, yes, all 3 of them. But then I can't figure out how to delete it. I'll keep trying, but so far I am too thick to figure it out. Kim 13:37, 22 May 2007 (PDT)

  • Don't sell yourself short so quickly. You may not have permission to delete it. Since I have Sysop privledges, i see things that others can't see. It may be that since every edit is saved with a history, all users can delete pages because they can always be brought back. However, I think images are deleted for good, so obviously, if that is the case, it would not be a good idea to let everyone delete images. In fact I bet that's it. I'll create a normal user account for me to check for that and other things. It would be a good idea for me to check on things like that. In the meantime, I'll delete your painting for you. BTW --- I didn't know you could count painting along with your other talents. :) Dypsisdean 13:46, 22 May 2007 (PDT)
  • Aha! No wonder it was so difficult - no permission. In the meantime I took a ramble through the main wiki help area and learned the secret of asterisks and quotation marks. Just what I need, more distraction from work. This thing is getting very amazing very fast. Nice work Dean! And, uuhhhh, I wouldn't exactly claim painting as a talent. Kim 14:15, 22 May 2007 (PDT)
  • Am I correct that general users cannot edit the listings in the main Encyclopedia? (Check sp. on Coccothrinax argentata) Is it possible to add a species? i.e. argentea, fragrans? Kim 09:51, 29 May 2007 (PDT)
  • Hey Kim, I noticed you were deleting things yesterday instead of adding. :) Anyway, yes --- I protected that main listing page because it was becoming so crucial to keep it intact at all times. So only the main page and that page are protected. I am not adding a species to the data base until I get a pic. Then when the pic is added, I give it a Palm page, and add the listing. Thanks, I corrected the C. argentata spelling. I'm glad someone noticed. Geoff has been unloading so many pics that I had to stop. I already maxed out my server's limit, and am now in the process of setting up another server with much more capacity. I have plenty of room for content, but another 200 pics and I would be out of room.
  • Dean, check sp. on Acoelorraphe and Acanthophoenix. I just noticed these today. I haven't gone through the whole list or anything. (If this is annoying, just say so.) Kim 13:36, 1 June 2007 (PDT)
  • "Annoying????" To the contrary, it's very much appreciated. After entering hundreds of names here and there, eyes get blurry and fingers get clumsy. Besides, spelling is not my strong point, and there will never be a spell check for latin binomials. Are you sure you don't want a to be a Sysop? :) It's really only that one page that you couldn't correct yourself anyway. Feel free to correct grammar or spelling anywhere.Dypsisdean 14:03, 1 June 2007 (PDT)
  • See what I mean? :-) Dypsisdean 15:55, 1 June 2007 (PDT)
  • Sorry, couldn't resist. Had to see if you're paying attention. : D How is the server addition coming? Kim 17:25, 1 June 2007 (PDT)
  • I wish I knew. It's all ready to go. Just waiting for the tech guy to do the software upgrade to the latest wiki software. It's a little tricky, but I just think he hasn't had time and/or he's just been lazy. Dypsisdean 17:30, 1 June 2007 (PDT)
  • More: Dictyosperma, roebellenii (one l), Johannesteijsmannia. Will there be room for that last 'a'? Oh, and Parajubaea torallyi. Kim 20:29, 3 June 2007 (PDT)
  • Mucho mahalo Kim. I thought you said you couldn't help, because you didn't know anything. A proof reader is a giant help. Boy, I really massacred torallyi, didn't I? Dypsisdean 01:27, 4 June 2007 (PDT)
  • If proofreading is the only way I can support the project, I'm happy to do it. I might not be able to identify the palm, but I can usually spell it -- and I look it up to be sure, because I make mistakes too. It's easy to come through and sweep up after you've already done the heavy lifting. These are just jumping out at me when I'm surfing the info, I haven't gone through the list systematically, only have a few minutes at a time to look around. Kim 07:48, 4 June 2007 (PDT)
  • Proofreading is as important a contribution as anything else. In someways, it is the most important. Every kind of search has to start with a correct spelling. Any mistakes you see on other pages you can correct yourself. So feel free to do so when you notice something. If you can make a sentence flow better, or the grammar is shakey, do your thing. Thanks Dypsisdean 13:59, 4 June 2007 (PDT)
  • Very minor edit that I can't access: When you go to the Coccothrinax argentata page with the photos, argentata is missing a 't'. : ) I enjoy the bird sounds so much, I open that screen then move back to my usual business screens to work. It's very soothing, I wish it lasted longer. I have put a few links to Palmpedia on a popular garden web site under the palm and cycad section, specifically to your "Top Ten..." article and this morning to the main page to get some traffic coming in. Last item: I saw your reply about volunteering to write about bugs, fungus, etc. No promises, but I might try to work something up to at least get it started. Again, my direct experience is limited. Kim 08:33, 20 June 2007 (PDT)
  • Thanks Kim, I fixed the typo. Also thanks for promoting the site. As a reward, I put the sound track on loop so it is continuous. I don't know yet how most people like it, but we'll see. I have a few tracks that I will try. So when you hear a new one, make a note. Let me know what you like. Also, we are on a new server now, and at times the site seems to hesitate a little. Let me know if you experience this as well. The tech guys keep blaming me and Hawaii internet service. Also, I think we can expect an interview from Wal, The Freck, and Clayton soon. I can't wait. And one more thing. You may miss it because I don't have a main link yet, but check under Garden Pictorials. I have started uploading some pics from Gary's Madagascar trip. The ones up already are not nearly the best. He took some fantastic National Geographic type shots, coming soon. Dypsisdean 12:21, 20 June 2007 (PDT)
  • Hi -- itty bitty fixes needed: Bactris gasipaes and Bactris grayumii. It looks like Luis already picked up on this. When you click on the listed name, it takes you to a corrected name and says (redirected from -Bactris misspelled-). I wouldn't have noticed otherwise, not familiar with these. I checked another site or two to confirm spelling, I hope they are right. --- Do you know the Vietnamese guy putting up pix? Looks good, nice to have international participation. All the more reason to include metric. Oh, and I've been adding temp. conversions F to C, although there are not many. I'm still waiting for Wal's interview, no sign of him.Kim 15:44, 10 July 2007 (PDT)
  • Oops, couple more: Borassus flabellifer -- looks like this one got the "redirect" treatment also. Just below that is Borassus madagascar-i-ensis and for some reason Borassus is fully spelled out, doesn't look like your work.
  • You go girl. :-) I'll get to work on those corrections. There are several palms like the B. madagascarensis. There are two B. mads. Beccariophoenix and Borassus. Same with names like C. elegans. There are four. So some have to be spelled out or the page will have the same name. I think it was Luis that did the Borassus. I'll check. And no, I don't know who the Vietnam guy is. I will write him a welcome. And ditto, Wal's interview should be interesting. I hope he comes through.Dypsisdean 16:27, 10 July 2007 (PDT)
  • Mucho Mahalo Miss Metric. Dypsisdean 16:46, 10 July 2007 (PDT)
  • Uuuuhhhh. Maybe you should give me temporary sysops status, (I can't believe I just wrote that) just to clean up some of the typos in the framework. 'Curiosities' is consistently misspelled throughout the framework. Is there a way to correct once and spell check the entire site? Or did you input all that manually? I don't know why I never noticed before... As I was putting in italics, something didn't feel right, so I did some reading. Sure enough, italics are used with the binomials, but not any descriptive words beyond that, and never when the genus is expressed as a plural. So I've been re-doing my edits...and learning about palms I never knew existed before.Kim 18:12, 16 July 2007 (PDT)
  • Congratulations. I think you are a sysop now. It really doesn't give you all that many more privileges.
  • I can't believe I did that....."curiosities." That is one I really did know how to spell. And it's not a template, so I can't change it just once. Darn!!! I've been cutting and pasting that mispelling this whole time. I wasn't sure about the proper protocol either as to the binomials and italics. I'm glad you figured it out.
  • I'm not sure if that sysop status will give you enough to do what you need to. Please let me know, because there is one more step above that......Bureaucrat. That sounds really scary, doesn't it? I can change it in an instant. I don't think there is anything you can mess up, except to delete the Main Page. That's the only super bad thing. Everything else can just be rolled back.
  • BTW --- I'm changing your favorite sound track. Tell me if you hate it. If you want I could send you some of those bird tracks and rain with light thunder for your PC for a little meditation between sell programs. :-) Dypsisdean 19:21, 16 July 2007 (PDT)
  • Oh! It sounds like we've walked from the moonlit garden into a nightclub. Shhh-ch-ch-shhh, ch-ch-shhhh, ch-ch-shhhh! It's your site, do your thing. (Send me the birds, yes please.)
  • If you were perfect, you could do the whole site by yourself, and that would be boring. Your few little mistakes serve to make you endearingly human. But if you made a zillion mistakes, well, you could do the whole site alone, and no one would ever visit...
  • My schedule is very full for the next 2 days, I'll try to figure out my new superpowers soon though. Thx.Kim 21:41, 16 July 2007 (PDT)
  • When I make corrections on the index names, it breaks the link to the palm pages. For example, Becarriophoenix madagascar-i-ensis and Brahea saruk-h-anii. (I've started checking spellings against RBC Kew's World checklist of monocotyledons. I swear every time I get through the B's and C's, I think of something else...) Anyway, even inserting a space or period breaks the link, and can't decipher how to correct that and re-establish the link. Tips?Kim 21:02, 18 July 2007 (PDT)Yup, I'm going to have to learn how to deal with this, just found 2 more, B. vieillardii and Brahea paraguayensis. G'night.Kim 21:09, 18 July 2007 (PDT)
  • Rather than try and explain everything, I went ahead and put a temporary fix on the Beccariophoenix. You are sharp enough to pick up on what I did there. You have stumbled upon the realization that anything new within a set of double brackets creates a new link to a new page. So just changing what displays is the easiest way. You can see how I did that. There is a way to make it all the way right, but I would have to explain it to you some other way, rather than here. And it's not worth a screencast. :-) But it has to do with the "move" tab. To do so, it is best to open up two browser windows, so you don't have to remember what you are doing, and get "lost." Open one window to the Palm Page whose spelling you will be correcting and break the link to, and the other to where you will correct the spelling. When the spelling is complete (and the link is broken), you can go to the Palm Page in the other window and "move" it to the new spelling. The tricky part is, that if you "lose" that page, you may not be able to find it again if you don't remember exactly how it was spelled. That is why keeping a separate browser window open, with it showing, will help you not to lose it. There, I guess I tried to explain it anyway. :-) For now (unless you are curious) just change the spelling as you will see in Beccariophoenix. That's easy. I'm sure you will undertand that trick. If not, let me know. I'll eventually see that it is like that and clean it up. It's really just a "house cleaning" chore. That is a trick we can use for those palms with the same names like C. elegans, as we have discussed before. It is useful for any time you wish the text to say something different than the actual link. Dypsisdean 23:30, 18 July 2007 (PDT)
  • So it turns out Alsmithia longipes is now Heterospathe longipes, since 2005, fairly recent. And Caryota gigas is a synonym for Caryota obtusa. I had no idea what I was getting into here. These are not revisions I should make.Kim 21:00, 20 July 2007 (PDT)
  • Editing concurrently again -- computer does not like, refuses my pithy edits. There is only one 'L' in 'survivability'. : )



Do you want me to add any cycad photos? I have a ton of goodies, just figured they may go in hand with the palms.


  • Christian, for now let's hold off. There is so much else going on. In the future though, if someone wanted to dedicate some time to a Cycad section, I wouldn't object. I don't have the knowledge to organize and put together one though. Dypsisdean 14:49, 15 June 2007 (PDT)


Hey, I see your sound!....on my user page. Cool. I looked at the edit page and I have no clue what's going on there. That's some Voodoo! MattyB 15:55, 19 June 2007 (PDT)

Adding species?

Dean, What about Borassus aethiopum and madagascariensis??? How do I add those? I have a photo of each! Also notice there is no V. gerardii... It seems to be a mysterious palm that there isn't much info or photos avaiable... Can you add those palms?

Hmmmm... That green Palmpedia book design looks stikingly similar to my icon design.... Hmmmm.... I think this page may have to be forwarded to my Royalties Collection Agency!!!  ;)

  • Welcome William, I answered you yesterday, or so I thought. I must have clicked on a wrong button and not saved it. Anyway, I wanted to let you know that if you go ahead and upload the the photos, I will see them and create a listing and a page for them, and move them into the new page. That way no species that is listed will ever be without a photo. Then hopefully people will eventually go back and fill in descriptions, etc. for each species. I'm curious, which icon of yours are you speaking of as being similar to this one? A user in Costa Rica sent that to me a few days ago as a contribution. I believe it was original art. Dypsisdean 11:40, 22 June 2007 (PDT)
  • I guess I was referring to my favicon for the IPS website "Palmtalk", but after looking back at that thread is seems there are only similarities and it would take a really really expensive lawyer to get me royalties... Oh well for the easy money... back to waiting for the trees to grow.  :) Good luck with the site! Certainly a great idea, a single place for a plethera of hands-on data... I like it, I like it ALOT! Maybe an advertisement at,, and would be in order?
  • Oh yeah, I remember now. Must be the clip art. :-) BTW --- I haven't forgot about that. I am waiting for the OK to switch to another server and software, after which I will try to get the favicon in there. Thanks for the pics. Any other Hi-Res shots you have that I could use, feel free to upload them, or contribute in any other way as well. Dypsisdean 14:51, 22 June 2007 (PDT)

main page song

Ohhhh man I love that song you have on the main page. It's what the theme from Pee Wee's playhouse starts off with. Memories.

MattyB 14:29, 19 July 2007 (PDT)

  • I like the new "nature sounds" loop, don't have to dive for the "stop" button now...  ; ) Kim 13:36, 20 July 2007 (PDT)
  • Dissension in the Sysop ranks :-).

Palm Box editing question

  • Doing a minor edit to Trachycarpus latisectus, when I add the trunk diameter in centimeters, it no longer shows up in the palm box at all. Comparing the previous version with the new, I don't see why. Could you take a quick look and let me know where the glitch is? Thanks. Kim 09:37, 27 July 2007 (PDT)
  • I don't think it was ever there. I noticed the underscore "_" wasn't in between the words (Trunk and diameter), and I doubt you erased it. In the Palmbox, if the underscore isn't there, in between words, it won't show. BTW --- I noticed if Asia is inserted "Oceania" actually shows (continents need to be lower case to work). I need to contact Luis. The Palmbox is sort of a "different animal." Don't quite understand it all, yet. Thanks for getting on those so quickly. I didn't want to take the time last night to do those details. It was late, and I wanted to follow Geoff's efforts getting the commentarty in on those pages.
  • I don't know how you guys do Mt. Whitney. I drove up Moana Loa 13,600ft, and a flight of stairs up there killed me. I hope it's just a symptom of getting up there so quickly and no chance to adjust, rather that a commentary on my fitness. :) Dypsisdean 12:55, 27 July 2007 (PDT)
  • I see. Yes, I am just following new additions and tweaking any missing details to amuse myself when I have a moment free. But also being careful not to do it while Geoff is working!
  • The trick for altitude is to arrive a few days ahead to get acclimated. We'll go camp at 9,000 ft. for 2 nights and do short day hikes at 10-11,000 ft. before actually hiking Whitney. It makes a huge difference. We drove from San Diego to San Gorgonio, started hiking at 8,000 ft and when we got up around 11,000 ft we had to walk 100 steps and rest, walk 100 steps and rest. It was brutal because we hadn't acclimated. But some people are genetically unable to acclimate, hope that's not you. Have you ever gone on a snowboard trip, and you feel completely whipped the first day, but the third day you're ripping? It's because by then you have so many more red blood cells in your bloodstream. Kim 13:24, 27 July 2007 (PDT)
  • I figured that was it. One minute at sea level, and a little over an hour later at 13,600ft, has to be a shock to the system. Dypsisdean 13:37, 27 July 2007 (PDT)
  • Haven't been in the snow since I was 18 and used to ski. Now, warm water surfing over cold snowboarding is preferable, I don't think I'm going to be surfing at altitude any time soon. :-) Dypsisdean 13:42, 27 July 2007 (PDT)
  • Dean, the Asia image bug was fixed, it works well now. --Ldgarcia27 09:33, 28 July 2007 (PDT)

Duplicate page

  • Cryosophila warscewiczii exists also as misspelled C. warscewsicsii. The latter is showing up in the orphaned pages; if I try to move it, that would delete the other page which has a palmbox, but no photo. The new page has photos, no palmbox. I'm uncertain how best to resolve and merge the two pages. Suggestions? Kim 20:48, 14 September 2007 (PDT)

P.S. I figured out the kundapen/condapanna question, found the identical photo elsewhere. Kim 20:48, 14 September 2007 (PDT)

  • Thought so, thanks for taking the time to track that down. Dypsisdean 12:09, 15 September 2007 (PDT)

You beat me to it!

Hey that was actually me, Angela. I'm working on his user page! He's "supervising." I was resizing the photo and then when I went back to his page you already changed it! You are very efficient... are you German? Paul wants to know. Thanks for the help!


Hi Dean. This is a strange new world. Thanks for the welcome. I finally figured out how to leave someone a post - this thing I'm writing. Although I'm not an expert, I tried adding in some basic info for the Pritchardia Thurstonii and it worked! Wow! I guess it's safe to say though this is not a forum, right? Real cool web site! Thanks for all your hard work.

I just looked at this and it didn't include my name, or date like on other messages. Anything I'm not doing? Thanks,

Just figured it out - ScottScott 18:51, 20 September 2007 (PDT)

very funny....

I will have you know that I went to work at 10am sharp! As you know I have been putting links to PP on WP (I will here on out refer to Palmpedia as "PP" and Wikipedia as "WP"... because I'm lazy)Someone showed interest in my gamelan recordings... I put a link to my PP page on their gamelan page. He/she would like me to upload my music directly to WP. First I have to license it or something to ensure it is not copyrighted. The person who contacted me is addicted to editing and checking links (just like me!) I messaged him/her back and tried to recruit him/her. I'll let you know when I hear back...--Anjali 19:53, 20 September 2007 (PDT)

RE: Question

Hi Dean, I am the same Scott from the Palm Talk Forum. But should I have responded in my own user talk page? And if so, do you do it by 'editing' the original message? That part I haven't figured out yet. I put the most basic info on my user page, but I don't have a palmy photo of myself to put there. I'll come up with something. Oh yeah I gotta watch that quicktime movie about uploading a picture. Gotta lot to do! Thanks! Scott 20:57, 20 September 2007 (PDT)

Dear Mr. Dean How are you? tranhuudang 09:00, 26 September 2007 (PDT)

  • I'm good Tran, where have you been?--Dypsisdean 21:46, 25 September 2007 (PDT)

quiet village

love that stuff but not sure if its the actual music or the picture on the cover of the album!great choice!

ti pics

Hey there. I see that you've uploaded a bunch of really pretty ti plant pics. They have no pages linked to them yet....what are ya planning, a companion plant page? MattyB 12:08, 1 October 2007 (PDT)

  • Hey Matty, I actually uploaded those just so Angela could take a look. She was asking about what ti's I had. So, I thought I would shoot them up here so she could see in full res. It was supposed to be an undercover operation.  :) --Dypsisdean 22:36, 2 October 2007 (PDT)

Beware, the sysops are monitoring your every move. 24/7 beedeebeedeebeedee(Buck Rogers)MattyB 11:55, 4 October 2007 (PDT)

  • Matt you blew his cover! Good bye, Mr. Bradford! (James Bond)--Anjali 00:46, 5 October 2007 (PDT)


I have an audio file that I'm trying to upload on my user talk page that's an mpeg4 (file extension .m4a) not a mp3. Palmpedia didn't want to accept this file type. I tried to fool it and change it to mp3 but it's not working. Is this something you can just turn on so it accepts mp4's?MattyB 09:57, 4 October 2007 (PDT)


Hey Matt, if you send it to me or Paul, I can convert it... if you haven't done so already.  :)--Anjali 00:51, 5 October 2007 (PDT)

BF songs

Hi Matt, If you are trying to upload some butteFace songs, tell me which ones you want and I'll upload them!--Anjali 00:58, 5 October 2007 (PDT)

Angela, I wanted to upload "Oh no you don't" to my userpage discussion page. MattyB 09:27, 5 October 2007 (PDT)

  • Yeah, guys----Has to be MP3--Dypsisdean 22:34, 5 October 2007 (PDT)

I would like to add sevaral entries to the Subtropical Survivability Index


First, I would like to congratulate you on this great idea. Ranking of palms this way is much more practical to others than using the USDA zones.

I would like to add my 2 cents to the list. I'm no expert, but from my observations in the areas I've lived in the Tampa Bay area, Florida, I think the following:

If Wodyetia bifurcata is hardy in your area, then you should be able to grow: Dypsis decaryi Dypsis lutescens Archontophoenix alexandrae

If Adonidia merrillii is hardy in your area, then you should be able to grow: Hyophorbe lagenicaulis Hyophorbe verschaffeltii Ptychosperma elegans Veitchia arecina


Jeffrey Apollo Beach, FL

Species list

In addition to the comments I made on MattyB's page I also recommend that the main species reference page be unprotected. If you find it to be the target of frequent vandalism which can't be cured by blocking disruptive users, then by all means protect it. Until then I suggest it be open to editing. And maybe the Community portal page could be shaped up such that palmpedia policy discussions have a forum and also sets of To do lists or other various projects through which people can team up to edit, i.e Needed articles: Acanthophyll, cotyledon, panicle, etc, etc or Palmpedia Project:Metroxylon, etc could be set up. Its my experience that many people work well from lists.ThanksMmcknight4 21:40, 1 November 2007 (PDT)

  • Thanks very much for the suggestions. It sounds like you have some experience working with wikis. We could really use someone like you, as I am still learning as I go. And there is so much to learn. I have been super busy trying to integrate a new forum feature in with the wiki software along with an upgrade to a much larger and more powerful server. This change will happen as soon as tomorrow. I hope you will re-register and continue to participate. --Dypsisdean 22:10, 1 November 2007 (PDT)
Hey Dean -How will we know when the server is switched? Will it be obvious? I keep checking back but Im not sure what to look for. Keep it palmy. Mmcknight4 14:59, 27 November 2007 (PST)
  • Yes, It will be very obvious. And remember you will need to re-register. There is a slight problem though. The tech guy has quit his job. I am not sure he is still willing to finish his deal with me. I should know soon though. --Dypsisdean 20:38, 27 November 2007 (PST)